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Straight Privilege? Really? Who here actually ARE the people with ‘privilege’?

Please point out all the bisexual people in the photo exhibiting ‘typical’ examples of ‘straight privilege’.

Now please point out who in the photo are people who actually HAVE ‘privilege’. Oh they happen to be a couple of wealthy and powerful gay men? Oh?

So maybe that old cliche some people like to winge on and on (and on and on) about that “all bisexual people automatically have ‘straight privilege’” as if it is some sort of status crime to be bisexual, might possible be … gasp, shock… wrong?


Quoting from the 2007 essay on the subject by San Francisco’s long-time bisexual/poly activist Peppermint, “Straight privilege is all those things you get just by being, acting, or appearing straight. Conversely, straight privilege is all those things you lose when you are, act, or appear as queer.” All the queer-looking people without an ounce of “straight privilege” in the photo are actually bisexual-identified LGBTQ folks EXCEPT the for two wealthy white guys in business attire. Those two are gay men, (bottom left that’s Joe Solmonese Executive Director HCR and in the middle-ish is Ryan Murphy co-creator and showrunner of Glee).

See how that works?

Just a reminder people PRIVILEGE COMES FROM THE CLOSET! being bisexual is Not a Status Crime

babyjoneslocker:

i don’t have the energy to deal with this ugh

i’m just tired of everyone stepping all over the bisexual identity

like it somehow isn’t radical or queer enough

i see so much criticism aimed at the identity itself that completely ignores what the actual community has been saying, as if there are no bi activists. i’m tired of seeing the same identity policing over and over

bisexual vs. pansexual

strongwillstrongwont:

tearingdownthatfence:

vegansexy:

mangoesandbunnies:

has anyone else ever wondered “what the fuck is pansexuality?!”

i have quite often. maybe i’m the only one. i dunno.

So this link is a rehash of all the same stupid shit we see on a regular basis about pansexuality as a word or identity being automatically more trans friendly, more “open minded”, etc. 

But here’s a segment I wanted to isolate for a close reading:

The differences between the two sexual identities are undermined by the fact that some people who consider themselves pansexual identify themselves as bisexual out of convenience, as it’s a more widely known sexual identity. In addition, some people who consider themselves bisexual may be open to dating someone who falls outside the gender binary.

Let’s begin with the first segment, “the differences between the two sexual identities are undermined…”

In a moment, we get the sense that there is something political about maintaining divisions between bisexuality and pansexuality. “Undermined” gives us the sense that there is an effort to make definitions of bisexuality and pansexuality mutually exclusive and to question that is betrayal, overtly negative, etc. 

When pansexuals of this mindset control the narrative about bisexuality, this is what we get. Manufactured and needless hostility and just general-making-shit-up.

And for this next segment, “some people who consider themselves pansexual identify themselves as bisexual out of convenience.” 

A generous reading would acknowledge that bisexual, as misunderstood and misrepresented as it is, is at least more familiar than pansexual as far as general use goes. But the fact that bisexual is again here cast as inadequate, as a term to use when you’re out and about with the lowly stupid commoners, as an uncomplicated and uncontroversial identity in terms of its position in cisheteropatriarchy, etc. is not missed on me. The elitism and desire to create distance between queer people who describe their desire and identities in very similar ways and experience much of the same crap is just gross.

Because can’t you see how heterosexism is at work here? Requiring some sort of substantial difference between bisexual and pansexual in order for pansexual to be valid is inherently fucked up. Heterosexism already says that queer identities and the way we describe them don’t make sense and aren’t good enough, so for some reason people respond to that by creating hierarchies and straight up lying in an act of horizontal hostility so that pansexual as a label will be taken seriously and be considered worthy of note. But it always already was worthy, and you don’t have to throw bisexuals under the bus in some sort of effort to prove yourself to the fuckers who oppress us in the first place.

And finally, “some people who are bisexual may be open to dating someone who falls outside the gender binary”. In a sentence, the author has erased nonbinary identified bisexual people and conflated gender and sexual identity. It’s also this sort of gross “I’ll date people in spite of their weirdo gender identity” bullshit that sees non-cisgender experiences as deficits that must be overlooked; after all, if we define sexual and romantic attraction based on cisgender standards, then engaging someone outside of that is considered “open-minded” and you can almost hear the loud thumps on the back of people who see nothing wrong with this self-congratulatory perspective.

The more I read and write about these topics, the more sure I am that division making between bisexuality and pansexuality is political and serves heterosexism. How that works exactly is something I still feel very much on the edges of. But when we analyze language closely like this, it seems fairly clear to me that it’s happening, and almost always seems to happen when pansexual people and/or people really wrapped up in an ally identity (specifically toward trans folks) control the messages on these distinctions.

*edited for clarity because I’m tired and it’s raining and I’ve got brain fog

I love it when I’m too tired to argue and then someone else says everything so perfectly. I’m bookmarking this forever.

Requiring some sort of substantial difference between bisexual and pansexual in order for pansexual to be valid is inherently fucked up. Heterosexism already says that queer identities and the way we describe them don’t make sense and aren’t good enough, so for some reason people respond to that by creating hierarchies and straight up lying in an act of horizontal hostility so that pansexual as a label will be taken seriously and be considered worthy of note.

Perfect

LGBT+ Inclusivity in Surveys and Questionnaires

When was the last time you took a survey or filled out a form where you had to specify your sex, gender or sexuality?

One friend who is transgender and bisexual discovered that their statewide LGBT group was asking people to self-identify on its website donation page, and it was only possible to select one identity when the options given were “lesbian,” “gay,” “bisexual,” “transgender,” “ally” and “other.”

For my friend, marking “other” didn’t seem right … “I really want there to be more bi/trans* visibility,” they told me, “especially since many people think trans* people are either all gay or all straight (depending on who you ask) and, of course, no one thinks a trans* person could be bisexual despite bisexuality being the largest sexual orientation group among trans* people.”

Other LGBT+-specific surveys that one would think would attempt to be extremely inclusive leave certain identities out as well. For example, one survey received by BiNet USA that claimed to be about “Sexual Minority Men’s Gender Attitudes and Wellbeing” ended up having a pretty narrow focus on gay men, despite being promoted as a study that included bisexual, genderqueer and transgender men too.

We still live in a heteronormative and cissexist society, and that is no clearer to me than at the doctor’s office. When I fill out their forms and identify as female, my doctors always assume that that means that I am heterosexual, so they ask me if I am on birth control … In fact, if doctors are making assumptions about a patient’s gender, sex and sexuality without verifying with the patient, mistakes are just waiting to happen … Much clearer questions should be asked on surveys and questionnaires, especially in the medical field, if accurate data is to be collected, and for all people to receive the best medical care possible.

This is likely just the beginning of a much larger conversation.

Wheel Around The World: wandering-womb: spoiler alert for lbq women

sexyfenix:

wandering-womb:

spoiler alert for lbq women:

you will never be gay enough, bi enough, queer enough. you will never love women enough.

don’t waste your time trying to prove yourself. you don’t have to tally up how many women you’ve slept with or kissed or crushed on. you don’t need to prove this to men or to yourself or to anyone.

don’t let them force you to quantify your love.

hey look, story of my life. this is why i don’t go back to SisterSpace.  this is why i don’t go to gay bars.  this is why i have a hard time breaking through the walls people have forced me to put up.  yes, i love women.  i love men, too.  and women who dress like men.  and, sometimes, men who dress like women.  but because i’m female and i have a man in my life, i’m automatically straight and therefore not good enough for anyone.

(Source: gaymakeouts)

sulkylass:

the bi=2 argument has been defeated a million times over

why do they still use it

gosh darn it

becasue it ISN’T actually a discussion of the Latin roots of various words used in modern European languages

it’s actually all about “we all (both the straight over-culture AND the mainstream gay/lesbian minority culture) hate and fear those annoying/scary/different people who have consistently refused to conform to societal norms in sex and gender and relationships” and who since the 1840’s have organized politically and socially around the word “bisexual”

that’s all that is really going on

I can be even more rambly

dani-kin:

vegansexy:

If you like pansexual and use it, you don’t have to have a super deep political reason behind it

Maybe you just heard it and it generally captures your desire in a way bisexual hasn’t before or it has a specific connection to your specific lived experience or someone you looked up to and had a lot in common with in your local queer group used it and it just clicked and felt right for you and that’s why you use it

That is absolutely fine

I use bisexual in part because of all these social and political reasons, but also because I have an emotional investment in the word that I can’t really describe and shouldn’t have to either. That’s a piece of yourself you aren’t required to broadcast or justify to anyone

Just how some people have specific political and/or personal reasons why they like homo or homosexual or gay or lesbian or a reclaimed slur or what have you

It’s just when assumptions are made about certain words that already get a lot more crap than others, or that bisexual is forced to shoulder the blame as a word when, in reality, we all absorb responsibility for cissexism regardless of how we identify

And the assumption is that we should just shed bisexual as an “ignorant or lesser predecessor” to pansexual which will solve All Our Problems

That is what I have a problem with

Hearing the word bisexual for me was like a homecoming.  It was like the clouds opened and the world was shiny and new and there was a word for people like me.  There was a ‘people like me’. 

I’m not shitting anyone when I say that.  I was 16 years old and VERY confused, reading all these books about gay and lesbian people and feeling like I was a part of them but it didn’t change the fact that I still love and wanted to bone my boyfriend.  I had heard the word bisexual in passing in high school and didn’t really pay attention.  It seemed to be code for ‘fake person pretending to be gay to be trendy’.  And my feelings were not fake, they were very real.  I was lost.

I was 18 years old before I met other real honest to god bisexuals.  And it was within a few months of being out of my crappy small hometown, away at college that I found out the true meaning of this word.  This word meant that I wasn’t a freak, wasn’t alone, wasn’t damaged goods.  It meant I didn’t have to hide, in fact, it connected me to an entire queer legacy from Oscar Wilde to Robin Ochs.  It was more than just an identity or a label, it was a homecoming but the home was one I made inside myself. 

That is also why I get extra sensitive about people identity policing, trying to define the word as binarist when that isn’t historically or culturally accurate, or otherwise engaging the pansexual superiority complex.  I get angry when people try to define MY label for ME without ever knowing a thing about me, then claiming they are the more inclusive ones.  

Not all pan/omnisexuals are like this, but I’ve met enough to know that those people have their own particularly pernicious form of biphobia.  I would never try to force them to use the word bisexual - that glorious wonderful inclusive word - if they didn’t want to.  But they continue to insist on redefining my sexuality when it doesn’t need redefinition while claiming to do so for the betterment of the entire community. 

I must beg to disagree.  I believe that the community is better off when peoples ability to self-define is respected.  If you tell me you are a woman, then I accept you as a woman.  I don’t point out your adams apple.  If you tell me you are gay, I accept you as gay.  I don’t grill you about your high school girlfriend.   And if I say I am bisexual, accept that I am the authority on what the word really means as well as on who I do or do not want to bone.

Thank you. 

(Source: idatandgaudior)

Vegan Sexual: I can be even more rambly

vegansexy:

If you like pansexual and use it, you don’t have to have a super deep political reason behind it

Maybe you just heard it and it generally captures your desire in a way bisexual hasn’t before or it has a specific connection to your specific lived experience or someone you looked up to and had a lot in common with in your local queer group used it and it just clicked and felt right for you and that’s why you use it

That is absolutely fine

I use bisexual in part because of all these social and political reasons, but also because I have an emotional investment in the word that I can’t really describe and shouldn’t have to either. That’s a piece of yourself you aren’t required to broadcast or justify to anyone

Just how some people have specific political and/or personal reasons why they like homo or homosexual or gay or lesbian or a reclaimed slur or what have you

It’s just when assumptions are made about certain words that already get a lot more crap than others, or that bisexual is forced to shoulder the blame as a word when, in reality, we all absorb responsibility for cissexism regardless of how we identify

And the assumption is that we should just shed bisexual as an “ignorant or lesser predecessor” to pansexual which will solve All Our Problems

That is what I have a problem with

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